Edwards & David Family History

Last updated 4 October 2006

John Edwards Engine Driver b.1828 Sully, Glamorgan, Wales						Ann Williams b. 1831 St. Athan, Glamorgan, Wales Haplogroup H
David Edwards b. 1853 Railway Clark Cardiff Haplogroup H	Mary A Edwards b. 1854 Cardiff Haplogroup H	John Edwards b. 1857 Cardiff Haplogroup H	Emma Maria Edwards b. 1 Jan 1859 m. 10 Sept 1881 Cardiff d. 1903 Haplogroup H	Henry Edwards b. 1862 Engine Fitter's Apprentice Cardiff Haplogroup H	Albert Edwards b. 1863 Cardiff Haplogroup H	Edith Edwards b. 1864 Cardiff Haplogroup H	Minnie L Edwards b. 1869 Cardiff Haplogroup H	Elizabeth J Edwards b. 1871 Cardiff Haplogroup H	Beatrice M Edwards b. 1873 Cardiff Haplogroup H	Ethel L Edwards b. 1877 Cardiff Haplogroup H

1841 Edwards

John Edwards

In the 1841 census, John Edwards in recorded as 15 he is unmarried and a labourer, born is Sully. He is living in Sully (or possibly Barry Island) with :-
Jenkin Rees (50), James Morgan (25), Ann Morgan 15, Mary Miles (20) and David Lewellyn (50).

1851Edwards

John Edwards

In the 1851 census, John Edwards in recorded as 23 (born about 1828) he is unmarried and a labourer, born is Sully.

He is living as a lodger at 39 East Side of Love Lane, Cardiff. The family he is lodging with are :-

William Davies 44, Labourer, born Penarth.
Hannah Davies 38, his wife, born Penarth,
Elizabeth Davies, 12, their daughter, born Sully
Ann Davies, 8, their daughter, born Sully
Thr??? Davies, 5, their son, born Cardiff

and two other lodgers

John Edwards, 23, Labourer, born ?Cadoxton? (which is very near Sully, part of Barry (Barri))
John Edwards, 32, Labourer, born ?W??????

Note: We have here a family with two daughters born in Sully, who have THREE John Edwards staying with them! Two of whom are aged 23.

1851Williams

Ann Williams

In 24 Almond Street, Liverpool there is a Williams family who could be the family of out Ann Williams.

David Williams - 64 - Weslian Minister - born Llanfair, Anglesea
Martha Williams - 53 - St.Athans Glamorgan
Jane Williams - 23 - daughter - born Liverpool Lancashire
John Williams - 12 - son - born Holywell Flintshire

At 202 Little Wind Street, Swansea, there is an Ann Williams. perhaps "our" Ann Williams, she is a visitor

Lettice ?Christolow?, 62
Sopia, daughter, 21,
Maria, daughter, 18
Ann Edwards, daughter in law, 28
William Edwards, son in law
Ann Williams, 20, visitor, born St.Athans (born about 1831).

The date and place of birth are right, and there are two Edwards's staying in the same house!

William Williams

In Peterstone Glamorgan, there is a sevant named William Williams, born about 1835 in St.Athans.

William Williams

At Coity Lower, there are five servants with the surname Williams, one was born in St.Athan. This was William Williams born about 1787.

Martha Williams

There is a Martha Williams, born about 1793, in St.Athena, living as a lodger in Mertha Tydfil with Shoemakers named Lewis.

Charles Williams

There is a Charles Williams, born about 1820 living in St.Athen, but born in Brampton Devon, his is an Agricultural Labourer, with him are his wife Eliza (abt.1824) son William (abt.1851) and daughter Ann (abt.1849) all born and living in St.Athan.

1859

Copy of Emma Maria Edwards birth certificate : born 1st of January 1859 at 12 Alice Street Cardiff, father John Edwards Engine Driver, mother Ann formerly Williams.

1861

I can not find our John Edwards, born in Sully, aged 33, in the 1861 census (using 1837online.co.uk).

There is a John Edwards aged 28. He is showing as being born in Carmarthenshire. His wife Ann is aged 29 born in Llanelly. There are three children, David aged 8, Mary/Margaret (can't quite read it) aged 6 & Elizabeth aged 3. They are living on Windsor St.
There is a John Edwards, 35, farm labourer, born in Glamorganshire, he is married to Ann (26) and has children Catherine (8) Lewis (6, born St.Nicolas) Jane (4, born St.Lythans) and Thomas (2, born St.Lythans).
These is a John Edwards, 31, coach painter, born in Neath, Glamorganshire, he is the son of Morgan (56, coach builder, born Llanrhidian) and Anne (56, born Margam), he has brother's and sisters Morgan (21, coach wheeler, born Cardiff) and Mary (17, born Cardiff).
There is a Thomas Edwards (36 plate layer, born in Eglwysilan, Glamorgan), living at Rhydfelen, Eglwysilian, with him are his widowed mother Mary (66, born Llanfabon), his sister Margaret (26, Dockmaker), his brother Thomas (21, platelayer) each are born in Eglwysilian.
There is James Edwards, 32 Agricultural Labourer born in Sully, living in St.Andrews Cardiff, with his wife Ann (32, born St.Andrews) their son John (8, St.Andrews), daughter Charlotte (6, St.Andrews) and William (4, St.Andrews).
There is Thomas Edwards, 40, Labourer, born Sully living in Llandaff, Cardiff. With his wife Martha 30, born in Dinas Powis.

1871 Census

Emma is listed as being with her Aunt & Uncle, David & Amy Williams at 36 St Mary's St which appears to be a hotel run by the Williams family.

At 12 Alice Street, Cardiff

John Edwards 43, (born 1827) Railway Engine Driver, born Sully.
Ann Edwards 40, his wife, born St Athena,
David Edwards, 18, their son, Telegraph Clerk, born Cardiff
Mary Edwards, 17, their daughter, born Cardiff
John Edwards, 14, their son, Labourer in ?? Engine Shed, born Cardiff
Henry Edwards, 9, their son, born Cardiff
Albert Edwards, 8, their son, born Cardiff
Edith Edwards, 5, their daughter, born Cardiff
Minnie L Edwards, 2, their daughter, born Cardiff
Elizabeth J Edwards, 5 months, their daughter, born Cardiff
Ann ????, 67, Mother in Law, born St Athens.

I have a major problem here, Ann's maiden name is Williams on her childrens' birth certificate, but the 1871 census gives a surname that I can not read as Williams, but could be Evans - she could of course have remarried!

1881 census

John Edwards (Engine Driver). Born on 1827 (or 1828) is listed as being 53 and living at 29 Alice Street, Cardiff St.Mary, Glamorganshire, Wales. His place of birth is given as Sully, Glamorganshire, Wales.

His wife is listed in the Census as Ann, aged 50, born in St.Athens, Glamorganshire, Wales.

Father of

David, a Railway Clerk aged 28 in 1881.
Emma Maria, born 1 Jan 1859
Henry, an Engine Fitter's Apprentice aged 19 in 1881
Minnie L, aged 12 in 1881
Elizabeth J, aged 10 in 1881
Beatrice M, aged 8 in 1881
Ethel L, aged 4 in 1881

1891census

The family have moved to 132 ?? (I can not read the road name)

John Edwards 61, (born 1827) Railway Engine Driver, borm Sully.
Ann Edwards 60, his wife, born St Athena,
David W Edwards, 38, their son, Book Keeper, born Cardiff
Minnie Edwards, 22, their daughter, born Cardiff
Beatrice, 18, their daugter, born Cardiff
Ethel, 14, their daugter, born Cardiff

1901 census

The 1901 census has John Edwards as being born in Dinas Powys, which is north of Sully.

Edwards Families in St Athena

Note : "My" John Edwards was born in Sully, not St.Athena. But, there is a link to St.Athena. 1813-1876
John Edwards & Johannah

Male child - c.14 July 1816

Thomas Edward & Ann

Thomas - c.5 Nov 1826
John - c.12 April 1829
Ann - c.18 May 1834 (died 1 Feb 1837, aged 2)
Catherine - c.10 July 1831
Elizabeth - c.1 Oct 1837
William - c.28 March 1841
Ann - c.31 Mar 1844

Thomas Edward & Elizabeth

William - c.28 Feb 1838

William Edwards & Jane

Mary Ann - c.11 March 1832
Ellen - c.20 July 1834
Elvira - c.3 Jan 1836 (died 20 Feb 1838, aged 2)
Elvira - c.6 May 1838
William - c.19 July 1840
Harriet - c.28 Jan 1844
Jane - c.8 Aug 1847

John Edwards & Ann

Catherine - c.25 Sept 1853

Pillip Edwards & Ann

David 24 Feb 1824
John 3 Nov 1826
Henry 17 Oct 1829
Mary 10 June 1832
Margaret 27 April 1838

Edwards Family Cadoxton (juxta Barry)

William Edward & Ann or Edward William?

Edward 20 April 1832

My thanks to Pat Marshall for providing much of the census information.

Sources

Birth certificate of Emma Maria Edwards.
1851 census.
1871 census.
1881 census.
1891 census.
From Catherine Pepper, details of 1871 census.
From Davies Family of Cardiff, Copy Emma Maria's Marriage Certificate. Emma Maria was married from, 29, Alice Street, Cardiff, Wales on the 10th of Sepember 1881. John Edwards is listed as her father and his occupation as Engine Driver.

Another John Edwards marries another Ann!

I have a copy of the marriage certificate of John Edwards and Ann David. They were married in the Parish Church of Llancarvan (now spelt Llancarfan) on the 12th of August 1850, John is listed as "of full age" and Ann as "under age", (i.e. over and under 21). John's father is Lewis Edwards and Ann's is Thomas David. Ann is a servant, John and both fathers are labourers. Both John and Ann are listed as living in Llancarvan. The marriage is by the rite of the Church of England and conducted by David Morgan, Vicar. The witnesses are Thomas David, Mary Edwards (mother?) and Edward Williams. John, Ann, Thomas David and Mary Edwards all "made their mark"

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